Please be sane, the prices you pay are RIDICULOUS

Melbourne, AUS
#64
Cheapskates and mongering dont mix and work. Better to find another activity.
Nor do people sabotaging the fickle market buy paying ridiculous prices.

It's a fine balance, again it's business, not love. Know the difference, therefore pay that difference.

Paying what the rate should be does not deem one a cheapskate. Paying well over and beyond what the rate should be deems you foolish.

You want to pay exorbitant prices, going invest in fkn Bitcoin!
 
#65
Nor do people sabotaging the fickle market buy paying ridiculous prices.

It's a fine balance, again it's business, not love. Know the difference, therefore pay that difference.

Paying what the rate should be does not deem one a cheapskate. Paying well over and beyond what the rate should be deems you foolish.

You want to pay exorbitant prices, going invest in fkn Bitcoin!
at the moment i am still in england, where i live in finsbury park you have a road with two coffee shops opposite each other, a Starbucks and a Costa. the cost of a latte in starbucks is £2,85 in costa £2,25. i use costa, not only because of the price but for me it is a better coffee. Starbucks think they can charge more because they are STARBUCKS. My point being a 3 million dong lady thinks she is Starbucks wheras there are plenty of 1.5 / 2 million dong ladies out there. it does not mean i am a cheap charlie because i drink at costa ,coffee is coffee., and to be crude pussy is pussy why pay 3 million when you can get the same product for 1.5 million
 
Melbourne, AUS
#66
at the moment i am still in england, where i live in finsbury park you have a road with two coffee shops opposite each other, a Starbucks and a Costa. the cost of a latte in starbucks is £2,85 in costa £2,25. i use costa, not only because of the price but for me it is a better coffee. Starbucks think they can charge more because they are STARBUCKS. My point being a 3 million dong lady thinks she is Starbucks wheras there are plenty of 1.5 / 2 million dong ladies out there. it does not mean i am a cheap charlie because i drink at costa ,coffee is coffee., and to be crude pussy is pussy why pay 3 million when you can get the same product for 1.5 million
Look, I get that everyone has different tastes and kinks, and that's fine, you just don't need to hand out home-loans to these girls for business.
Take Thailand. 10 years ago, maybe not even, prices were decent and you could pull a decent girl in most places for a reasonable price. Now the girls will always try to high-roll, that's just business negotiation in Asia. Go to today's times (I was there is September 2019) and the wave of Japanese tourists have absolutely destroyed that market. They pay top dollar for everything. Now it doesn't matter to them, they have money to burn so they are happy to leak it, that isn't the problem. the problem is it increases the expectation levels on the ground amongst the women. Therefore they stick fat and demand a higher price, they think they have got it before why not again.
If you want to show your appreciation to a lady for a session in your hotel, take them shopping or out for dinner and drinks. Throwing an extra $50, $100, $200, whatever it is, does nothing but inflate and already exaggerated market.
Indonesia is the same now, I heard reports that Angeles City is similar due to the Korean visitors.
You just want to be a good experienced negotiator out on the street and in the bars and clubs. I love a good barter, they will try stick firm, just stick firm to what you want to pay, make sure you own the market.
 
USA and VN
#67
Cheapskates and mongering dont mix and work. Better to find another activity.
If you say so, pimp. Instead of finding another activity, how about moving on to the next gal(s)? Vietnam has such an abundance of ladies, plenty of fine fish to be had for "local" prices. Hey, if it makes you feel important as a VK, throw more money at them all you want, I get the same service with the same gal for less and they don't even call me a cheapskate. I bet they called you a sucker.
 
Ho Chi Minh City
#68
Not a pimp here, moron with the dog face. Just observing the loser whiners here complaining about price, when they should be making more money.

This is boyish, childish behavior. Cheap skating when it comes to sex is a waste of time, or you're gonna get cheaper coffee. I dont buy the coffee analogy because we are dealing with looks, age, and a human being here.
 
#69
In the old days, the price was the price. If you look at Kynu, you see a range of prices, from the low-end ones at 300k up to the top end at 2mn. (actually there were some Russians at 4mn recently, and often they have some Vietnamese ones for 3mn.) It's not set price any more, it's free market at work. Their prices are what they can charge and still earn money.

There's no point bitching about Japanese and Koreans. Unless there's some way to block them from coming, it's a waste of time. Higher and higher numbers of guys from many countries go to these places (red light areas of Bangkok, Pattaya, Angeles, etc.) and if you have more customers but same number of girls, then prices can only go up. Unless tourism to these places drops, prices will keep going up.

The shift in past 10 years has been more toward freer market rates and basically inflation in that market.

The numbers of visitors is millions. Some posts on this forum can't change that big a trend.
 
Ho Chi Minh City
#70
Finally someone with some logic. There are 2 types of guys on forums like these. Guys who can't get sex and money/resources and complain.

Then there are the guys who have made it, understand free market and self-improvement, and don't complain.

We're all competitors in a free market, and more so in a flesh/meat market.
 
#71
Not a pimp here, moron with the dog face. Just observing the loser whiners here complaining about price, when they should be making more money.

This is boyish, childish behavior. Cheap skating when it comes to sex is a waste of time, or you're gonna get cheaper coffee. I dont buy the coffee analogy because we are dealing with looks, age, and a human being here.
Not a pimp here, moron with the dog face. Just observing the loser whiners here complaining about price, when they should be making more money.

This is boyish, childish behavior. Cheap skating when it comes to sex is a waste of time, or you're gonna get cheaper coffee. I dont buy the coffee analogy because we are dealing with looks, age, and a human being here.
my god , are you real. you advocate paying above market value for something that is over in 40 minutes ? it is like a work of art , the item is only worth what the customer is willing to pay for it , if you think it is worth 2 million happy days, your money . but dont brand people cheapskates because they dont put the same price tag as you. . i saw many people in my 10 year in thailand be good guys and end up broke and many "cheapcharlies" still "ploughing the fields".
 
#72
last "rant". lets see what happens in the coming 2 or 3 month with far eastern tourists. as i suppose you are well aware of this virus that is going around and showing no signs of abating. people dying in hong kong, thailand and the phillipines.
my daughter lives in Ningbo in China and she says the city is like a ghosttown everyone is frightened to leave their houses. travel is banned. you people are in HCM now, are you seeing lesser numbers of tourists ? because once that happens the market place shifts to becoming a buyers market.
 
Melbourne, AUS
#74
Not a pimp here, moron with the dog face. Just observing the loser whiners here complaining about price, when they should be making more money.

This is boyish, childish behavior. Cheap skating when it comes to sex is a waste of time, or you're gonna get cheaper coffee. I dont buy the coffee analogy because we are dealing with looks, age, and a human being here.
Lol, fuck me. Check this hero out. Earn more money?
If only you knew who the fuck you were talking to champ.
 
Ho Chi Minh City
#75
last "rant". lets see what happens in the coming 2 or 3 month with far eastern tourists. as i suppose you are well aware of this virus that is going around and showing no signs of abating. people dying in hong kong, thailand and the phillipines.
my daughter lives in Ningbo in China and she says the city is like a ghosttown everyone is frightened to leave their houses. travel is banned. you people are in HCM now, are you seeing lesser numbers of tourists ? because once that happens the market place shifts to becoming a buyers market.
Or some women take themselves off the market or live down. Or the scamming goes up. As well as crime.

No one is advocating overpaying. But bargain-fucking cheapskates will always be whiners and when they do get some, its lesser meat.

There will be less offerings due to the Corona Virus.
 
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#77
If anyone ever feels the need to prove something on an internet forum full of strangers, they've already lost.

Half the stuff on this site is garbage ramblings mixed in with useful discussion.
 
#78
i joined this forum to get information for when i come to live in vietnam, whether it be housing, motorbike hire and places to socialise. i wanted to listen to the people who have been here a while and would steer me away from the mistakes they made when they arrived.
i would say until now it has been 50/50 on good advice and fairytales.
i am thankful for the good advice i recieved and do not listen to the Hans Christian Andersons of this world.

we have all made the choice to live in vietnam so lets help each other out, and hopefully in the future i can pass on my knowledge of living here
 
#79
The conversion involves crazy guy willing to pay more, and a pimp at least, who is trying to inflate the price. As we said before, take ppl's posts with a grain of salt.
 
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